If anyone needed any evidence of Liverpool and Arsenal's flaws, one would simply need to watch the 2 - 2 draw at Anfield yesterday.
Ray Houghton was there alongside our own Nathan Murphy for live coverage of the game and analysed the match after the 9 minutes of injury time had elapsed.
He believes that the Reds definitely deserved the draw, but he also mused whether the result was good or bad for Arsenal and how Arsene Wenger's team are "still a work in progress".
He also gave his take on the other big weekend games including Manchester City's win over Crystal Palace despite injuries to key players, and where a 1 - 1 draw at Aston Villa leaves Manchester United.
Oisin also caught up with Andrew Mangan of Arseblog to talk about the current situation at the Gunners amid injuries, inconsistency and a lack of identity.
Listen to both bits of analysis below. Houghton is on about a minute in, with Mangan 29 minutes in.
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