Jamie Heaslip has opened up about his relationship with his former Ireland head coach Eddie O'Sullivan.
The two did not see eye to eye during their time working together. But now during the Rugby World Cup TV coverage, they are sharing a studio. And viewers had picked up on a degree of frostiness between the pair.
Well, Heaslip joined us on Off The Ball as his autobiography All In hits the shelves. He touched on the current relationship with O'Sullivan which he details in the book.
"We're both on to do a job," the ex-Ireland and Leinster No 8 told us.
"We're not exactly hanging out with each other afterwards would probably be a fair description of what the relationship is like. Look, it would be very boring if we all had the same opinion, right? And he's coming from a very different perspective - a former coaching/manager perspective.
"I'm coming from a playing perspective with teams that had a lot of success over the last while. And also under the current Ireland coach as well.
"I was under Joe [Schmidt]'s tutelage from 2010. So I'm giving a different taste of it. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we don't. I'm also learning that craft. You can't just disagree on every single point, which I learned on Day 1. But I'm also quite used to doing commentary and on TV it's quite different.
Heaslip also had a chuckle at mention of our Risteard's Rugger Thing episode which features him and the aforementioned O'Sullivan:
"I'm going to have to pull [Risteard] up on it," he joked of the dual impersonation.
He also discussed his transition into media and how he loves co-commentary above all else.
"I really like commentary," he said.
You can also watch the full Jamie Heaslip interview above via our YouTube channel.
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